Bryan and Lili interview Star Trek production royalty Michael and Denise Okuda. The discussion starts with Denise Okuda receiving her Bachelor of Science in Nursing, she had a friend who worked at Paramount who asked her to come up and speak to a couple of members of the art department at Paramount on the design of sick bay. Denise goes on to speak about meeting with Herman Zimmerman, who's a production designer at Star Trek, The Next Generation and also meeting with illustrators, Andy Probert and Rick Sternbach. Denise goes on to talk about seeing a Max Headroom picture on Michael Okuda's bulletin board at Paramount then meeting him and dating him which further led to her working on Star Trek: The Next Generation, then she was officially hired to do a Star Trek feature film. Michael Okuda then talks Star Trek4 : The Voyage Home, Star Trek 6: The Undiscovered Country, Star Trek: The Next Generation and For All Mankind.